Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/03/2000 02:00 PM House FIN

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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 281(FIN) am                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
"An Act relating to missions and measures to be applied                                                                         
to certain expenditures by the executive branch of                                                                              
state government and the University of Alaska from the                                                                          
state operating budget for the fiscal year ending June                                                                          
30, 2001; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEAN PARNELL testified in support of the                                                                                
legislation. He noted that House Finance Committee staff and                                                                    
agency personnel worked with the Senate on the legislation.                                                                     
He stressed the importance of the legislation and noted that                                                                    
the legislature appropriates funding to state agencies and                                                                      
expects them to follow through on expenditures in a way that                                                                    
is never clearly defined. Missions and Measures were                                                                            
developed for each agency. He gave examples of the missions                                                                     
and measures:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Vocational Technical Center.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
(a)  The mission of the Alaska Vocational Technical                                                                             
Center is to provide market-driven vocational and                                                                               
technical training to state residents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
(b) The legislature intends to measure the success of                                                                           
the center in achieving its mission by considering;                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
(1) The percentage of graduates who are employed                                                                                
in their areas of training;                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
(2) The wage increase for graduates;                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
(3) The percentage of students who complete long-                                                                               
term training programs;                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
(4) The percentage of students living in student                                                                                
housing compared to student- housing capacity; and                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
(5) For each long-term program, the number of                                                                                   
students enrolled in the program compared to the                                                                                
number applying to the program.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Division of Juvenile Justice.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
(a) The mission of the Juvenile Justice is to protect                                                                           
and restore communities and victims while holding                                                                               
juvenile offenders accountable for correcting their                                                                             
behavior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
(b) The legislature intends to measure the success of                                                                           
the division in achieving its mission by considering:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
(1) The percentage of juvenile offenders that re-                                                                               
offend;                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
(2) The percentage of juvenile offenders in long-                                                                               
term treatment who improve their grade point                                                                                    
average during their time at the facility;                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
(3) The percentage of juvenile offender court-                                                                                  
ordered restitution and community service that is                                                                               
paid or performed; and                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
(4) The number of escapes from juvenile justice                                                                                 
institutions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell stressed that the bill will only be as                                                                          
effective as the follow-up and accountability that the                                                                          
legislature gives it in upcoming years. He stressed that the                                                                    
legislature needs to work with agencies to determine if they                                                                    
have met their mission and if not, why not. The legislature                                                                     
can then respond to issues of management or inadequate                                                                          
funding. The mission and measure bill is separate from the                                                                      
actual budget bill. He spoke in support of combining                                                                            
missions and measures, and the actual budget into one piece                                                                     
of legislation. He noted that the state of Texas combines                                                                       
its missions and measures and appropriations into one                                                                           
document. The public can locate the mission and outcomes                                                                        
with each appropriation item. He encouraged Alaska to take                                                                      
the next step to integrate missions and measures into one                                                                       
booklet with the operating and capital budgets.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell suggested deletion of the Senate language                                                                       
for the Division of Banking, Securities, and Corporations on                                                                    
page 7, line 28: "protect shareholders in corporations". He                                                                     
pointed out that it is a broad and big statement and that                                                                       
there is no statutory direction to protect shareholders in                                                                      
corporations in such a broad-brush way. This language was                                                                       
added on the floor of the Senate.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies questioned if the purpose of the                                                                       
measures is to actually measure outcomes, not to measure                                                                        
what is produced. Senator Parnell agreed and gave examples                                                                      
of the intention. In the Department of Public Safety the                                                                        
intent is to measure how safe the roads are. In the                                                                             
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities the                                                                          
intent is to measure if the roads are adequately maintained                                                                     
to citizen standards. The intent is not to measure the                                                                          
number of lane-miles that are maintained; the measure is how                                                                    
well they are maintained. He stressed that as a result, the                                                                     
public would have a more readable and understandable budget.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Phillips questioned if there was much                                                                            
difference between the House and Senate language. Senator                                                                       
Parnell explained that the work was divided between the                                                                         
House and Senate. The House language was incorporated along                                                                     
with the Senate language into a bill. There were amendments                                                                     
in the Senate Finance Committee and on the Senate floor. He                                                                     
stated that the only significant change was to the mission                                                                      
and measures of the University of Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
VINCE USERA, SENIOR SECURITIES ADMINISTRATOR, DIVISION OF                                                                       
BANKING, SECURITIES, AND CORPORATIONS, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                            
COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT provided information on                                                                      
the legislation. He stressed that the measure for Division                                                                      
of Banking, Securities, and Corporations on page 7, line 28                                                                     
(see above) is so broad as to be impossible to comply with                                                                      
and that it would cover any person that owns a share in any                                                                     
corporation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Phillips agreed with comments by Mr. Usera.                                                                      
She stated that an audit by the Legislative Budget and Audit                                                                    
Committee found that the legislature had no statues in place                                                                    
to implement the measure.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JACK FARGNOLI, SENIOR ANALYST, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND                                                                         
BUDGET, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR testified in support of the                                                                      
legislation. He stressed that the governor would look                                                                           
forward to a more comprehensive process for more public                                                                         
involvement. He spoke in support of greater public                                                                              
participation. He emphasized that as the measures become the                                                                    
focus of a more comprehensive discussion that the role of                                                                       
the commissioners and the governor's cabinet would be                                                                           
interpreted more broadly in terms of the statutory                                                                              
responsibility of the departments. He added that use of a                                                                       
standardized approach for administrative services of                                                                            
functions is problematic and emphasized that the departments                                                                    
are inherently different and that future discussion                                                                             
regarding the differences would be fruitful.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Phillips MOVED to delete language on page 7,                                                                     
line 8, subsection (3): protect shareholders in                                                                                 
corporations. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies MOVED to ADOPT the House language                                                                      
for the university and to delete the Senate version. He                                                                         
maintained that the Senate language was "weak tea".                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WENDY REDMAN, VICE PRESIDENT, STATEWIDE PROGRAMS, UNIVERSITY                                                                    
OF ALASKA provided information on the amendment to the                                                                          
legislation. She acknowledged that the House worked                                                                             
extensively with the Board of Regents on the university's                                                                       
missions and measures, but noted that the Senate language                                                                       
picked up the key measures. There isn't any inconsistency                                                                       
between the House and Senate language. The primary                                                                              
difference is that the Senate did not include all of the                                                                        
language adopted by the House. She stated that the primary                                                                      
issues were addressed and that the university would support                                                                     
either version.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
(Tape failure occurred at this point.)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell noted that Senate changes were the result of                                                                    
discussions that concluded that many of the measures were                                                                       
not true measures. He gave the following examples:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The new or expanded degree programs in teacher                                                                                  
education, health careers, process technology,                                                                                  
transportation and logistics, information technology,                                                                           
seafood processing, and other high demand job areas;                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The increase in research grants in arctic biology,                                                                              
climate change, resource development, fisheries and                                                                             
ocean science, logistics, geosciences, and atmospheric                                                                          
sciences;                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell emphasized that the intent was to not focus                                                                     
on the income or new programs but on the outcomes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Redman observed that the House Subcommittee wished to                                                                       
direct were the university would spend their efforts in                                                                         
relationship to research. The intent was to increase                                                                            
research in some areas such as arctic research.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies agreed and explained that a problem                                                                    
with research is that the most important research does not                                                                      
payoff for a long period of time. Therefore, it is difficult                                                                    
to measure the outcome.  He acknowledged the need to measure                                                                    
results, but emphasized the difficulty of measuring a                                                                           
research enterprise with results based orientation. He                                                                          
observed that the House included a measure of "the number of                                                                    
annual citations and references per research faculty                                                                            
member." He maintained that research, cooperative extension                                                                     
and public service is left out of the Senate version. He                                                                        
observed that much of the language in the House version was                                                                     
derived from language recommended by the Board of Regents                                                                       
and refined by the House Subcommittee with their help. He                                                                       
felt that the Senate language was vague.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell observed that the measure of the number of                                                                      
University of Alaska graduates, by community of origin and                                                                      
by community of current employment, who are new teachers,                                                                       
new principals, and new superintendents does not measure the                                                                    
quality of the teachers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder expressed appreciation for the brevity of                                                                       
the Senate version. He suggested that the proper balance                                                                        
could be derived from combining the Senate and House                                                                            
language. He felt that House items 8 - 10 were worth                                                                            
considering.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies stated that it is appropriate to                                                                       
have a mix of measures with productivity to measure the                                                                         
quality of the program in meeting a state need. He stressed                                                                     
the need to produce teachers that can be employed in rural                                                                      
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Phillips agreed that an ideal statement could                                                                    
be derived from a combination of the House and Senate                                                                           
language. She felt that the Senate version was incomplete                                                                       
and emphasized the need for measures regarding vocational                                                                       
education. Representative J. Davies noted that a typical                                                                        
mission of a university doesn't include a community college.                                                                    
Alaska is unique and it is important to roll in the                                                                             
vocational mission to highlight the uniqueness of Alaska's                                                                      
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault referred CSSB 281 (FIN)am to a                                                                              
subcommittee consisting of: chair Phillips and members                                                                          
Bunde, and Davies.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Parnell pointed out that the Senate version included                                                                    
measures relating to research:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
(8) the number and amount of research grants in                                                                                 
Alaska-specific areas of inquiry;                                                                                               
(8) the occurrences of applied research benefiting                                                                              
Alaska's economy;                                                                                                               
(8) the average number of hours faculty members spend                                                                           
on classroom instruction, student advising,                                                                                     
research, and other activities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies stressed that they are not in the                                                                      
mission statement.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 281 (FIN)am was heard and HELD in a subcommittee                                                                           
consisting of: chair Phillips and members Bunde, and Davies.                                                                    

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